Wednesday, April 13, 2016

Roger Stone: [Jonh F. Kennedy, Jr.] was murdered by the Clintons

"Roger Stone is writing a book based on his conspiracy theory that the Clintons murdered John F. Kennedy Jr. Stone is an longtime ally and friend of Donald Trump, who has previously used the discredited operative's research in attacks against the Clintons.
Stone worked as a top political aide to Trump's presidential campaign before exiting in August. Stone is a notorious "dirty trickster" who formed the anti-Hillary Clinton group C.U.N.T. in 2008 and has spent much of the 2016 cycle pushing smears about the Clintons. He has a history of using racist and sexist attacks against media figures, and was recently banned by CNN and MSNBC. He currently heads the pro-Trump super PAC Committee to Restore America's Greatness and is a frequent Trump supporter in the media. Stone has been under heavy criticism recently because of his stated plan to "disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in" allegedly stealing the nomination from Trump at the Republican convention.
Stone last month appeared on the internet radio show of fringe conspiracy theorist James Fetzer, who believes the Holocaust, Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, and 9/11 attacks were faked. During a brief aside, Stone mentioned he was writing books about Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) and the alleged murder of John F. Kennedy Jr. “by the Clintons”:
(video at link)

41 comments:

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

I'd like to defeat Hillary. This is not how.

edutcher said...

http://mediamatters.org

Uh, we're using Dr Evil's mouthpiece as source material?

I know April's been taking a beating lately, but encouraging her neuroses is not the way to help.

OK, better topic: Ted Cruz defended Texas' ban on the sale of dildos.

Now we know what drove Heidi into the middle of rush hour expressway traffic.

chickelit said...

If we're doing guilt by association, how about spotlighting Cruz's father?

deborah said...

The article teased John-john was 'in the way' of the Clintons. lol he was a pretty low key guy from what I remember. I subscribed to his George mag.

The plane crash was definitely an unforced error. I read no way should he have flown in that weather.

Amartel said...

Yes, yes, I've suspected this all along. Bubba called JFKjr earlier in the day and suggested an evening flight out to the Cape would be a great idea, take the wife and sister-in-law along and don't bother to nap in advance as you'll be sure to get some shut eye on the flight.

bagoh20 said...

A few days after JFK Jr. crashed that plane, I went out and started my pilot's training in Cesnas. It was his crash that actually inspired me, or rather got me thinking about it enough to pull the trigger. I don't fly them anymore - too damned expensive. I read a lot about that fateful last flight of theirs. It seems to me that the accepted version is very believable. Minimal conditions, rushed itinerary, barely competent pilot for the plane and conditions, and you get exactly what happened. I've been close enough to similar mistakes to be able to taste it. I buy it as told originally. Something could have been done to make it more likely, but there was already enough wrong in the scenario to be deadly.

Amartel said...

No evidence so far other than: (1) JFKJr. probably would have run for office at some point, having failed upward from everything else he tried, thereby potentially posing a threat to the Clintons and (2) No one really likes the Clintons all of a sudden, unexpectedly.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Did Bill hide out in a grassy knoll? Is Roger Stone related to Mao Tse-Stone?

edutcher said...
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Amartel said...

No evidence so far other than: (1) JFKJr. probably would have run for office at some point, having failed upward from everything else he tried, thereby potentially posing a threat to the Clintons and (2) No one really likes the Clintons all of a sudden, unexpectedly.

Few ever did.

Willie lucked out by inheriting the Reagan economy and the Reagan victory and proceeded to screw them up royally.

deborah said...

I was very affected when it happened. I imagined the horror they must have felt when the plane started plunging. I felt badly that Caroline would be alone.

In one article I read, a guy who'd been working on his plane, or something, said he considered telling Kennedy he shouldn't fly, but he decided against it because he didn't think Kennedy would listen because he was an arrogant.

Chip Ahoy said...

He's the guy with the tattoo of Nixon raping the statue of liberty and grinning outward from his back so that when he's actually bent over humping somebody from behind he actually does look like Nixon raping the statue of liberty and looking back. But it takes somebody standing behind him and looking to appreciate that monstrosity and that's what makes the thing so doggone weird.

Frank was there at the club, in the front where the music is loud but not so loud as in back, he said he saw Stone talking to JFK JR about not ever trusting his instruments in fog, they're simply not up to the task, whenever you fly through fog over water be sure to ignore you lying ass instruments, they mislead young pilots all the time. The thing to do is always trust your instincts. Frank said he could see Stone was manipulating a well known Kennedy weakness when he noticed Stone adding, "Be sure to take this with you for clarity" and handed him a pocket flask. <--- I might have got some of this wrong.

Methadras said...

Lol wut? Clinton's killed JFK? Clinton's have probably had many people disappear, but JFK? WTF is this nonsense?

Amartel said...

I met the guy in college on several occasions. He was charming, kind of wary as one would expect, even a bit aloof, but not arrogant. Not super brillz either but he would have been a very, very effective politician. Maybe arrogant with people who worked for him? Or maybe such people didn't want to speak up and risk getting a bad rep? Who knows, really. He should not have been flying in those conditions with his level of experience and he probably knew that but assumed that the charmed life would continue as it always usually had. I felt awful at the time for the family of his wife and sister-in-law. Just a devastating loss for them.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

I meant to say Oliver Tse-Stone. (duh)

Amartel said...

Roger Stone is a galactic hack.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Exactly, Meth. There's enough REAL criminal and unsavory behavior from the Clinton to focus on, without muddying up the waters with the fake stuff.

The fake stuff only helps the Clinton. cuz they can say "see! we told you it was a vast right wing conspiracy."

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

"Roger Stone is a galactic hack."

It's true.

edutcher said...

The echo chamber speaks.

edutcher said...

deborah, FWIW, if anybody is having trouble entering a comment, it seems the I'm not a robot thingy is acting up.

This may just be Chrome, but I thought people should be aware.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Frank was there at the club, in the front where the music is loud but not so loud as in back, he said he saw Stone talking to JFK JR about not ever trusting his instruments in fog, they're simply not up to the task, whenever you fly through fog over water be sure to ignore you lying ass instruments, they mislead young pilots all the time. The thing to do is always trust your instincts. Frank said he could see Stone was manipulating a well known Kennedy weakness when he noticed Stone adding, "Be sure to take this with you for clarity" and handed him a pocket flask. <--- I might have got some of this wrong.

Chip, as you are apt to do, you nailed it.

Rabel said...

Stone's a fool. Everybody knows it was Castro finishing what he started.

Anonymous said...

When Trump is president, all you people who are trying to steal the nomination from him will be sorry. Your name is already on the Registry.

edutcher said...

For those with a sense of humor, Ann Coulter asks to see the place in THE RULES where the voters don't have a voice.

Now Daddy is in real trouble, isn't Coulter from one of those "minor ivies"?

Watch her rip him a new one.

bagoh20 said...

This should make you all swoon. Trumpers haven't managed to help Trump much, but they have done plenty to assure a Hillary Wins even if Cruz is the nominee.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/13/morning-consult-50-state-snapshot-trump-does-slightly-better-in-the-electoral-college-against-hillary-than-cruz-does/

Kasich kills her by 70 electoral votes though. Seems that none of us are mainstream, or populists - Kasich is, which means we are all fighting ourselves right into the epic fail. Come on FBI!

Methadras said...

AprilApple said...

Exactly, Meth. There's enough REAL criminal and unsavory behavior from the Clinton to focus on, without muddying up the waters with the fake stuff.

The fake stuff only helps the Clinton. cuz they can say "see! we told you it was a vast right wing conspiracy."


April, the vast right wing conspiracy died the moment it was uttered. Everyone secretly laughed at them for even saying it because it was utter bullshit and it's just a cliche now. They started a meme and didn't know it.

edutcher said...

Get real. Kasich?

They're recycling that idiot poll April's been using for the last 2 months.

Not to mention Salem is bought and paid for.

I know, you ignore anything that lends a note of discord into your serenity, but, trust me, nobody even knows Kasich is alive.

edutcher said...

OK, let's say it all together, "Corey Lewandowski is a nice man. He is not a Trumpist thug".

The charges have been dropped.

Can we say, however, these are Cruzist thugs?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

ed, leftist thugs does not equal Cruzist thugs.

edutcher said...

Hey, guys just trying to move through a crowd do not equal Trumpist thugs, either.

Methadras said...

edutcher said...

OK, let's say it all together, "Corey Lewandowski is a nice man. He is not a Trumpist thug".

The charges have been dropped.

Can we say, however, these are Cruzist thugs?


What the fuck did I tell you all that this is exactly what would happen. He should sue her ass and I hope he does.

deborah said...

Yes, Amartel, the two sisters, also. So hard on the parents.

deborah said...

Thanks, Ed, no trouble so far.

This from Huffpo: It will be a Kasich/Rubio ticket.

Reasons 3, 6, and 8

Republican Party elders have more than enough clout to make sure that “Rule 40(b)” gets changed prior to or at the Convention, thereby enabling Republicans like John Kasich who haven’t won a majority of delegates in eight states to nevertheless be considered for the nomination.

Whereas Ted Cruz is loathed by the Republican Party elite, has lost to Hillary Clinton in head-to-head polls 55 percent of the time since November 2015, and has no actual accomplishments in government to point to, John Kasich hasn’t lost a single head-to-head poll to Hillary Clinton in 2016, is broadly if imperfectly acceptable to both Party elites and movement conservatives, and is far and away the most accomplished Republican primary candidate left.

A Kasich/Rubio ticket would appeal to both mainstream Republicans (Kasich) and Tea Partiers (Rubio), to both white and Latino voters, to younger voters who want to see someone relatively young on the ticket, to those looking for a ticket whose members run the gamut from executive to legislative experience at both the state and federal levels, and to those who believe all members of a presidential ticket should hail from a major battleground state.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/john-kasich-will-be-the-r_b_9638598.html

edutcher said...

Meth, we all knew it.

I'm waiting for the apologies.

I'm not going to put my life on hold as I wait, but I am waiting.

edutcher said...

deborah said...

Thanks, Ed, no trouble so far.

This from Huffpo: It will be a Kasich/Rubio ticket.


That piece goes back to the weekend IIRC.

Rubio's finished politically, at least for the time being. We can all argue whether he sold out or was victimized, but he's done. When the Cruz crowd said he'd dropped out the day of the HI caucus, it took away any chance for anything like momentum in his state. He knew he was finished in the Senate, but he wanted a shot at governor, but 18 points behind Trump killed that.

And nobody is going to rally around a guy who couldn't carry a single state but his own and traded the third and fourth spots with Daddy Cruz. Ryan/Kasich might have seemed a viable ticket to Rinse and the boys on Monday, but now the whole thing's such a mess, there's a FB petition to fire Priebus. And I think his days are numbered.

Cruz may have Beck telling crowds he bears the burdens of Moses, but the smell of this gets worse by the day and people really seem to be getting angry - of course, the same is happening with Hillary and Bernie and it's now said a quarter of the Feel The Bern crowd might stay home.

Now we have this business that even 1100 delegates would get Trump the nomination; clearly, an indication the heat is being felt in DC - it's also illustrative that most Trump supporters are saying, "Don't trust 'em, get 1237 and as many more as you can". We also hear the big spring rules changes will not happen, another red flag the rank and file is being heard.

The Rinse crowd had its shot and they screwed it. I don't think they will call the turn on what the ticket is. And it looks like the Cruz crowd is trying to poach delegates in MO again. Add this to the fact the CO situation is being repeated in WY and ND and Cruz does not come out of this month with his reputation intact. He also appears to be sinking in the polls (for whatever that's worth).

What I think happens is that, as Trump sweeps the next 6 primaries (and it's looking that way), Cruz gets squeezed between Trump and Rinse. If Priebus comes under heavy enough fire and his well-laid rules (which I think were intended to help Jeb! the way the chicanery on the Demo side is meant to help Hillary), he'll have to go and his people with him.

Does that make the party Trump's? Possibly. Whoever takes the chair will have a tough time implementing any more rules that the rank and file don't like. The Whigs have to be aware by now that, if Trump and his people walk, they're done. Control of Congress shifts to the Democrats and, except for a handful of Conservatives in both houses, a lot of people like McConnell will finish out their terms and then go home, abandoned by a large enough segment of the party that will refuse to forgive or forget.

Whither Cruz in all this? If Rinse goes, he's in a tough spot because he now has the image of having flouted the will of the people and nobody with his back to defend those noisome rules. If not, he can cut a deal to drop his challenge and be part of a united party - maybe even have President Trump campaign for him in '18 if he wants to stay in the Senate, a gig like Solicitor General (he seems to have done a pretty good job in TX and it may be the best thing for a guy with both his shortcomings and abilities). I think there will be enough Cruz supporters in touch with reality (you don't see too many of them on comment boards, granted) to see their guy has made himself toxic and understand defeating Hillary (who may well be pretty radioactive herself) is the real prize.

YMMV, but Kasich/Rubio is some kind of Lefty pipe dream, a ticket even Hillary could beat, no more.

deborah said...

Thanks, Ed, I think you are our uber political junkie here :) 'Night!

edutcher said...

I hope that's a compliment.

deborah said...

Mais oui.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Ann Coulter had her dick removed. Now it's up her bung.

deborah said...

Mrowwww!

Methadras said...

AprilApple said...

Ann Coulter had her dick removed. Now it's up her bung.


I think Titus would line up to get it out.