Wednesday, July 15, 2015

"Trust me."




That is impossible. Iran leadership is equally untrustworthy. There is nothing to trust in both parties save for untrustworthy characteristics. So, no. We do not trust you. We trust grownups to repair the damage you insist upon. 

I heard his challenge by accident while deep cleaning that had me so cross so immediately my impulse is punch the guy for the haughty arrogant delivery. What little I saw of it.  I do not like listening to this man one single bit. I've never in my life had a president demand so much attention, insist on being heard so much as this man, Honest to God, listening back for the challenge the hissing extended sibilants with emphasis jabbed my eardrums and rattled the little bones in there. It is actual torture.

He chided a one-time Fox reporter for his use of the word "content" as in contentment, the same way George Takei latched onto the word dignity and ran with it inappropriately so that the issue at hand is deflected to his Highness taking umbrage. "You should know better." 

Just answer the question and spare us what better things we should know. Magisterial deflection rejected. It was a bad deal and from a position of dire immediate need and of weakness and not of the actual strength of our position, if deal you must and for reasons unexplained. He traded off the country's efforts. He is a bad deal maker. So no, he is not trusted. 

The bit that I am looking for sounded fairly good at first blush, argumentatively, if you hadn't bothered with his dissimilation before and if the chief interest is scoring polemical points and not in developing understanding and agreement with his royal subjects. He is not interested in that. So no, he is not trusted.

The exchange is right before he departed abruptly not taking anymore questions this morning. 
I challenge those who are objecting to this agreement, number one to read the agreement before they comment on it, number two to explain specifically where it is that they think this agreement does not prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and why they're right and people like Ernie Moniz, who is an MIT nuclear physicist and an expert in these issues is wrong, why the rest of the world is wrong, and then present an alternative. 
And if the alternative is that we should bring Iran to heel through military force, then those critics should say so. And that will be an honest debate.
All right.
Very well, we will read the agreement. And we will explain specifically where it fails to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon and much worse than that as you know, and your appeal to authority is rejected when common sense supervenes whoever the authority or from wherever they hail. And when the rest of the world tells you their shit sandwich is delicious we'll  still question their judgement and "this notion" that a new treaty is necessary is entirely your own, for reasons your own, so no, we do not need to offer you an alternative. You can leave it alone or turn up the heat. And lastly the choice you present between this treaty and opponents suggesting war is discarded to the heap of previous Obama tagged sophomoric false dilemma sophistry.

That is allowing only a few seconds.

Text of speech Washing Post.

31 comments:

Amartel said...

Anytime/anywhere inspections were promised and not delivered. The document is useless. It is the product of a fake negotiation between two delusional religious icons and will be ratified by the one-party government of both nations. Iran will get spending money and nukes. Iran doesn't even need a full-on missile; just need enough to put in a suitcase and deliver, through some obvious but never acknowledged proxy, to Israel or the U.S. That's all. We get nothing. Not even release of 4 U.S. hostages. But King Putt gets to pretend he's a statesman.

Amartel said...

King Putt does not answer difficult questions, Major. You know better.

edutcher said...

Ed Henry and Major Garrett seem to be the only ones willing to ask His Poutiness a real question.

And this is ValJar's payback - the one she mentioned - to the West and to this country for being so mean to her native land.

The good news is IdiotBoy opened the way for the Israelis for another Osirak-style strike when he pulled us out of Iraq.

Amartel said...

You can tell Obama knows he's on thin ice when he starts lecturing and hectoring and delivering ultimatums. He's being extra frosty about this deal he made. The dramatic waving of the finger is a giveaway when you're dealing with gentlemen who are unused to and do not appreciate being questioned. By the peasants. Potentates, dictators, ayatollahs and the like. Bin laden did it in all his vids.

Amartel said...

Russia is selling Iran defensive weapons that will make a strike by Israel nearly impossible.

edutcher said...

My money's on Israel.

Russian stuff is second-rate.

Besides, Poot is just telling the world he's a big a jerk as Selfie.

The crazies hate him as much for Chechnya as they do us for supporting Israel.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

What is Joe Biden's role standing there?

If the deal goes south Bama is not taking the blame alone.

edutcher said...

Notice he didn't say what a big f'n deal this is.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

That question by Mayor Garrett was like putting a turd in Obama's punchbowl.

How dare you?

bagoh20 said...

Oh, I trust him plenty. I trust him to do the stupidest, most unconstitutional, ill-conceived, petulant or poseury thing at every oportunity. He's consistent and reliable.

Chip Ahoy said...

Indentions fixed. Apologies.

Rabel said...

He's such an ass. You'd think you could get a semi-honest assessment of the situation instead of the usual straw man argument considering the horrible outcomes that could arise from failure of the agreement. But no, it's this deal or war with Iran. No other possibilities. No other options. Bastard.

That will be his defense if/when they build a bomb. That and blaming his successors for ruining his perfect plan.

AllenS said...

What did you expect from a community organizer?

Tank said...

Con man. Always with the con.

I trust him exactly the same as I trust the Mullahs and Putin.

No less, no more.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

FYI Lem and Chip - this video plays non-stop while your site is up. (at least on my end)
Can you turn it off?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Petulant is the perfect word to describe and encapsulate Obama's presidency.

AllenS said...

Watch Biden.

Dad Bones said...

I'd like it if Biden, the perennial presidential wannabe, had some sort of psychotic episode and stared at the teleprompter and mouthed the words as Obama read them.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

I think I stopped the video from auto-playing... let me know if it worked.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

TIP on disabling auto-play on video embeds.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I think it's working. Stopped. Thanks, Lems. :)

Amartel said...

Hillary! is (finally) tanking.
Will Slow Joe get in the race?
He can be America's first mentally disabled president.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Hey, if you say "Lem and Chip" fast, you get Lemonchip.

ricpic said...

Even the thought of deep cleaning gives me agita.

Amartel said...

Sounds like a major rearranging going on at Ahoy Acres. CasAhoy? Stately Ahoy Manor?

AllenS said...

If Hillary is tanking, and Biden entered the race, he would tank faster than Hillary.

Immediately.

Amartel said...

Biden would tank while driving a tank. Proudly. Into the Senate Reflecting Pool. Then declare victory and go for a nude swim.
Or would we be treated to yet another extended effort by the media to cover for a big lefty phony?
Biden enters race.
Media goes full suggestive blather mode about how white men are newly interested in voting Dem due there being a white man running on the Dem ticket (well, other than O'Malley, Sanders, and Webb but never mind them) and that's all white men really want, to vote for a white man, due to being all racist and sexist and like that. Think Pieces abound. Earnest Interviews with White Men who purport to speak for (and apologize for) all white men. Earnest, weepy interviews with Hillary! advocates. Hillary! tossed aside once again to please the men; troglodyte honkies must be wooed. It's understood that it's not the fault of the Dems but of White Men and their backward ways. Hillary! withdraws and is photographed sitting on pile of money looking pensive, surrounded by chicks. Bill not in the picture. Chelsea and baby Chelsea and possibly Soren the cat. Heartfelt Biden apology (in writing) issued. Donation to Clinton Foundation made.
Biden never speaks to press. (Press breathes sigh of relief.) Smiles and waves only. Biden campaign releases document outlining campaign platform in very broad strokes. (1. Not Fuck Up Barack's World, 2. Continue Barack's Legacy, 3. BFD.) Never provides further details. There aren't any. Biden does not do debates (unpresidential, unbecoming of an elected senior statesman) but goes on late night shows and taunts Rep candidate Walker ("this nation is still young and does not need a walker"). Headline: Sly Joe Smacks Down Republican't Walker Guy.
Voter fraud
Voter fraud
Voter fraud.
Sudden New Rule: Polls close at noon on Tuesday everywhere except in cities.
Presto, President Biden.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Hating and distrusting Iran is not a policy. It's an emotional deadlock that has you incapable of doing anything.

Sometimes I wonder if the Republican policy is, literally, to say to Iran that if it doesn't do what they want they're going to mope around, grit their teeth, throw things, feel uncontrollably angry and punch the next closest person.

Maybe even a person named "Iraq".

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

But no, it's this deal or war with Iran. No other possibilities. No other options.

And what are they? Describe them?

Further confrontation is disastrously irrational. And it would keep enrichment at levels 50 times greater (or more) than with the agreement.

Methadras said...

I wonder why Biden is behind him looking all humble-tough? Does that somehow add legitimacy to the utter failure this guy has been.

Methadras said...

Rhythm and Balls said...

Hating and distrusting Iran is not a policy. It's an emotional deadlock that has you incapable of doing anything.

Sometimes I wonder if the Republican policy is, literally, to say to Iran that if it doesn't do what they want they're going to mope around, grit their teeth, throw things, feel uncontrollably angry and punch the next closest person.

Maybe even a person named "Iraq".

July 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM
Blogger Rhythm and Balls said...

But no, it's this deal or war with Iran. No other possibilities. No other options.

And what are they? Describe them?

Further confrontation is disastrously irrational. And it would keep enrichment at levels 50 times greater (or more) than with the agreement.


It's amazing how you pop out to float talking points for this dude when it's necessary. Aside from the obvious of levying even more sanctions on Iran would have been the more rational thing to do in forcing to abandon their nuclear ambitions. But hey, Iran has been double dealing this whole time, so i guess Obama said, it's a twofer for him, so here you are to validate that. You are comically naive and predictable.