Wednesday, June 10, 2015

"Nobel scientist says women in science 'fall in love' and 'cry' in labs"

Let me tell you about my trouble with girls … three things happen when they are in the lab … You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry.”
He added that he was "in favour of single-sex labs" but "doesn't want to stand in the way of women."

His comments were tweeted by Connie St Louis, director of the science journalism program at City University London

"Really does this Nobel Laureate think we are still in Victorian times???"

The Royal Society, of which Hunt is a fellow, has distanced itself from his remarks, saying: 

"The Royal Society believes that in order to achieve everything that it can, science needs to make the best use of the research capabilities of the entire population.

“Too many talented individuals do not fulfil their scientific potential because of issues such as gender and the Society is committed to helping to put this right.”

After an online backlash against Hunt's 'sexist' remarks, he told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme that he did not intend any offence - but stood by his comments.

11 comments:

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

horrormoans. such a drag.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

People at his level would be well advised to take re-education courses in gender studies ;)

Back to school

Chip Ahoy said...

My lab partner was one of the smartest and most stable women I met at university and I met a lot of smart stable women. None were kids. All were adults at the Auraria campus downtown and later accelerated and compressed to intensity at Regis. All professionals. All dead serious. (Except one who who was more fun than the rest and got me in a bit of trouble because she was a little cheater in an accounting class run by her uncle.)

Until that one fateful day the smart stable lab partner went out of character and flipped completely whacked. Flap around whacked. Nonsense talk whacked.

This baffled and distressed me for I relied on her being smarter than me.

That one day. I hoped it wasn't permanent.

I carried a pocket calculator that happened to calculate biorhythms. She gave me her birthdate. Entered it with that day's date. Turned out triple critical, where all three waves hit the center and cross either going up or going down, either peak is the best compared to confusion and temporary limbo at the center, bad thing for one of three waves but hers was that oddity that occurs rarely when all three waves are critical and cross at the center line on the same day, and Man, did she ever show it.

Her goofy wackiness showed by her marking a glass tube with a grease pencil in the wrong place and at the wrong time. The tube was measuring the level of water displaced by gas that increased by the production of photosynthesis, the amount of gas produced by a plant in intervals. Our task was to record that. Simple enough.

"Is it time to mark?" No, it was not time to mark.
"marks the tube at random spot and completely unrelated to the level of gas." Why did you do that?
"I don't know."


rhhardin said...

MIT mathematician Gian-Carlo Rota said to me one time that he thought both positions were ridiculous. ``There are plenty of women with all the talent for math anyone could want,'' he said. ``But women leave math when they discover that you can't do it without sustaining world-class illusions, such as the belief that grips one while one is working on a very difficult paper on a very obscure corner of a difficult subject, that here, at last, everything will be settled once and for all.''

- Vicki Hearne, Bandit "Beastly Behaviors"

Or, as it turns up in Carell and Hathaway _Get Smart_ 2008, women do men's work fine but they do it grimly.

A real feminist might point that out, e.g. Derrida Choreographies. Read a few pages, it's not as hard or boring as it looks.

ricpic said...

Darling, do I look fat in this lab coat?

Methadras said...

I got into a semi-funny argument with Michio Kaku on the UCSD campus once, a while ago about a couple of things. One was his perpetual appearances in rashes of pop. science shows featuring foolish physicists doing stupid shit, talking about physics as if it were magic, NewAge bullshit. He got a little perturbed and used the, "Well, you aren't a physicist, so you wouldn't understand." canard. I told him that I didn't need to be a physicist to listen to his understand his squeamish bullshit. About then, he started to poo-poo me and walk away, so I shot back at him and asked him to explain how backwards time travel was possible? He stopped dead in his tracks, stood up straight as if someone shot a stick up his ass and turned around and walked back to me and started giving me a little physics lesson on how it was possible. I listened to his gibberish and let him finish. He had this cloud of smug that was formed around him like a shield and he folded his arms and said, that's how it's possible.

So I looked him dead in the eye and said, bullshit. All of it. So to paraphrase, I told him more or less that it may be possible mathematically, but all of reality would shit on you for even attempting it. His first argument was using a power source like a black hole to power a time engine (basically) to basically rip a hole in space-time to the point you wanted to go back to. All of which I laughed at because it's made up comic book nonsense. I said look, not only is it impossible, but you couldn't generate enough power to do it and here is why. The most powerful power source to ever exist to our understanding was the big bang (if it really ever occurred, which is something else completely) and it's expansion only went one way, forward. So you would have to effectively harness the same exact amount of power, without expansion, find some way (god only knows how) to tell the entire universe to stop its current motion and not just the universe as a whole, but every single point in the universe that has ever existed along with every particle, sub-atomic particle, their original pathways, their original origins, everything that ever existed to the point you wanted to go back to, and drive the universe essentially backwards using plank-time, plank-frame, by plank-frame, by plank-frame to the point you want to get back to.

I looked him dead in the eye and said that you are effectively asking the entire universe since the big bang until now to become a giant memory device to hold all of that information somewhere, so that would have to harness it's equivalent power from it's creation, stop forward motion of all points in space-time, stop time, then rewind everything using that same power source, to use to drive it back to the time you want to go back to and reconstruct every point along the way. The whole time I was laughing my ass off just even saying it. The look on his face was fucking priceless. I pretty much put the icing on the cake and said, and then if you can do all of that, where back in time would you go? And don't you think it would be a total waste of resources to do so, unless you went back to the beginning to see how it all began? So no, Mr. Kaku, backwards time travel is not only impossible, it's ridiculous because it's an absurd notion that you and your fellow physicists have romanticized to the point of beclowned absurdity and you promote this crap as real science. You should be ashamed of yourselves. But hey, I wouldn't understand physics right? And I laughed even harder.

At this point, I thought he was going to cry, but he just turned around and walked away. It was a good day. I'm pretty sure he hates me. :D

edutcher said...

As one of the friends of The Blonde's favorite nephew likes to note, "Women add drama".

chickelit said...

More PC blather to ignore.

Methadras said...

edutcher said...

As one of the friends of The Blonde's favorite nephew likes to note, "Women are drama".


FIFY

ricpic said...

Well, the super-gravity of a black hole might counter the forward thrust of space/time and send you *whoosh* back in time. But we'll never know, the experiment can't be done, because super-gravity - which is what a black hole is - extinguishes EVERYTHING.

Now go easy on me guys, I know squat about science but being a blowhard I had to put in my two cents.

ampersand said...

I do backward time travel every November,But only for an hour.