Thursday, June 18, 2015

"High court upholds Texas ban on Confederate flag plates"

"In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court determined the license plate design falls under government speech. Government is not bound by the First Amendment’s free speech clause when it comes to limiting the content of its own speech, Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the majority. Conservative Justice Clarence Thomas joined liberal Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan in the majority.... The Supreme Court ruling said the First Amendment does not limit the content of what governments can say when promoting programs, policies and positions.
“Were the free speech clause interpreted otherwise, government would not work,” Breyer wrote."

20 comments:

edutcher said...

Kirby Smith weeps.

Or, as Bedford Forrest said when one of his men asked where he and Richard Taylor were riding on May 4, 1865, "To Hell or to Mexico".

ricpic said...

So the government is not constrained by the Constitution? Guess that makes it clear what we live under.

edutcher said...

SCOTUS has been rewriting the Constitution since John Marshall.

If I agreed with Ben Carson on nothing else, I'd support him on doing something about the courts overstepping their Constitutional bounds.

TrooperYork said...

It is par for the course for the judciary. Just as in New York where the "Choose Life" license plate has been banned.

It is only politically correct leftist claptrap that is protected.

The Court is no help.

bagoh20 said...

"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton praised the ruling, saying it “confirms that citizens cannot compel the government to speak, just as the government cannot compel citizens to speak."

I know that's the way it works in practice lately by people who don't respect the constitution, but the idea that the government and the people are somehow equal partners under the constitution is just retarded.

I prefer this lawyer's take:

"...that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

It's a sound decision. I sure hope that Scalia and Scalia Junior, his little pet, Alito, are enjoying their increasing irrelevance on the court.

How the hell could it have been decided otherwise? Praise be one of your presidents at least had the sense to appoint a black justice to remediate them on these things. What would have been next, an official state license with a burning cross on it? These people are amazing. The government does not need to be forced to endorse anything, certainly not hatred of certain Americans and certainly not the Confederate enemies of America who tried to destroy it.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Sometimes I think your neo-Confederates wouldn't be content unless they'd been able to put up a license plate with John Wilkes Booth on it. Maybe even holding his pistol and mumbling something about "Sic Semper Tyrannis".

And your arbiters would have forced Texas to approve it.

Truly twisted people.

edutcher said...

Rhythm and Balls said...

It's a sound decision. I sure hope that Scalia and Scalia Junior, his little pet, Alito, are enjoying their increasing irrelevance on the court.

How the hell could it have been decided otherwise?


How 'bout Free Speech is free. You let the Nazis march through Skokie, you let somebody put the Stars and Bars on his car.

PS Ritmo's sounding more like Bathtub Swabbie from TOP.

Sometimes I think your neo-Confederates wouldn't be content unless they'd been able to put up a license plate with John Wilkes Booth on it. Maybe even holding his pistol and mumbling something about "Sic Semper Tyrannis"

Why not?

It is Free speech and it would scare the Hell out of the Lefties like Ritmo.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Ed, as far as dummies go, you're in a very special league. But it takes astounding heights of stupidity to not see the difference between being an offensive anti-American asshole in general (like you, for instance), and putting offensive, anti-American asshole sentiments on official state identification insignia.

Of course, if you think really hard, you might be able to see the difference. But that would require an honesty and intelligence that might actually make you employable.

Where does someone as unsuccessful as you get your balls?

The question actually sort of answers itself.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You let the Nazis march through Skokie, you let somebody put the Stars and Bars on his car.

People can and all the time do put the "Stars and Bars" of America's enemies on their car.

What they can't do is force the state to press license plates with something like that on them.

It's really not a difficult distinction to make.

edutcher said...

You mean like Planned Parenthood does with pro-abortion stuff?

Margaret Sanger wasn't exactly one of the country's heroines. KKK lecturer, penpal of Heinrich Himmler.

But when was Ritmo ever opposed to this country's enemies?

Rhythm and Balls said...

Where does someone as unsuccessful as you get your balls?

At least I have them, sweetie, and I don't have to hang out on the Net calling people who can beat my time intellectually nasty names because I can't answer them any other way.

And nobody owns anti-American asshole like Ritmo.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

The government can't be forced to print or quote your expressions, and the SCOTUS agrees. End of story.

Continue to rant at will, call names, be a hypocrite, sympathize with insurrection and murder of Abraham Lincoln, lack awareness of what you're doing or saying, not realize when you're losing and spend a lot of time on the internet, responding to everything - time that you claim only I should have.

edutcher said...

"Government is not bound by the First Amendment’s free speech clause when it comes to limiting the content of its own speech".

Madison, Monroe, and Hamilton might disagree.

And, if Ritmo ever read the Federalist Papers, he'd know secession was held out as the final defense against a dictatorial government.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Continue to rant at will, call names, be a hypocrite, sympathize with insurrection and murder of Abraham Lincoln, lack awareness of what you're doing or saying, not realize when you're losing and spend a lot of time on the internet, responding to everything - time that you claim only I should have.

Rant, call names, be a hypocrite, sympathize with insurrection?

Hmmm, someone's certainly projecting.

Take a couple Haldol and call the shrink. I'm sure he has a couple of hours to spare.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

If you agree with John Wilkes Booth that Lincoln had no right to enforce a federal Constitution that made no provisions for secession, or maybe even that he should have been killed for it, just say so. Stop being a pussy and pretending to ally yourself with a cause without saying whether you actually do or don't. Have some integrity. BTW, those "papers" were written before the Constitution was. And when you use quotation marks, you're supposed to say who you're quoting. These are things that people who didn't drop out of school or fail to secure consistent employment are familiar with though, so maybe you didn't know that.

Answer directly or face the consequences, you slippery weasel. You might not have an employer to hold you to account, but I will do that for him.

edutcher said...

Rhythm and Balls said...

If you agree with John Wilkes Booth that Lincoln had no right to enforce a federal Constitution that made no provisions for secession

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Go to bed, moron.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

So ed - that's the extent of your brave little defense of the cause that fought and killed Lincoln? You actually think the 9th and 10th amendments give states the right to wage war against the federal government, and to kill its president?

Do those amendments give me the right to kill you, also? Because that would be awesome.

I still have a bit of reading to do before I turn out the lights. Some of us feel like learning and being productive before retiring… to bed.

Teach me more about this right I've been assured of, by the Constitution, to wage war however, whenever and against whomever I want and, if necessary, to kill you. Because if you like the way your interpretation gave your hero John Booth the right to kill Lincoln, you're going to love the way it gives me the right to wage war against and kill you.

Just remember as the bullet flies through your head: I'm fighting for freedom. You'll feel how free it will make me to do that to you. I'll even call it out as it happens, so that you can identify with me, your fellow citizen, as I exercise my most sacred of rights!

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!M!!!!!!M!MM!M!!!!

I'll yell it out the way Braveheart did. Think of the incredible relief you'll feel as you're relinquished of your earthly obligations.

edutcher said...

Gives them the right to secede.

Lincoln made war on the South, remember?

He invaded.

And the cause didn't kill Lincoln

Last I read it was one man.

And fighting is the last thing Ritmo does.

He whines, he moans, he calls names, he obfuscates, but that's as close as he comes to fighting.

He is, however, starting to sound like Dylann Roof.

And probably has needed the same sort of institutionalization for a long time.

PS I don't doubt threatening somebody over the Internet is a criminal offense.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

What a twat you are. The first shot was fired BY the South, at Fort Sumter. Every high school student who passed history class knows this, you disgusting layabout.

Booth was fighting to complete the cause that the South fought. By all accounts, he had some success, too - given what a disaster Andrew Johnson was and how he made Reconstruction a lot less effective than it should have been. His impeachment had something to do with conceding to the rebels in ways that undermined the entire war, and continues to give violent anti-Constitutionalists, and even know-nothing wanna-be supporters like you, something they feel should remain unresolved even through this very day.

You are officially the dumbest person on the internet, and in the world. Go find an even older and more dead-end cause.

Although I don't put past you a stupidity so great as to allow you to even forget what you just said, I remind you that you're the one endorsing the cause of killing American soldiers - as the confederates did, and that killing a force's leader can be considered a legitimate act of war. So you're the one advocating interpretations to allow the killing of your fellow Americans. You can't even follow the illogic of your own twisted reasoning.

This is why no one trusts you with any responsibilities in life.

edutcher said...

First I had balls, now I'm a twat?

We should start calling Ritmo Caitlyn. He seems confused about gender.

Rhythm and Balls said...

So you're the one advocating interpretations to allow the killing of your fellow Americans

you're going to love the way it gives me the right to wage war against and kill you.

Just remember as the bullet flies through your head:


Say it again, sweetie.

Ritmo's pop history is about as real as his new-found patriotism, as he seems to root against America in every war.

BTW Lincoln's attempt to resupply Ft Sumter by ship was the first act of war, as he was invading a foreign country. Little known but important. And several Southern states which hadn't seceded tried to warn Lincoln against a violent response which might impel the other Southern states to secede. So he created a much larger mess than he otherwise would have had to face.

As for Booth, he acted on his own initiative and every school child knows that.

And Andrew Johnson was impeached by the Radical Republicans for trying to implement Lincoln's views on Reconstruction. Any educated person knows that.

Oh, and the Confederates were just as much American soldiers as the Federals. Everyone, including FDR, agrees on that, except Ritmo.

Another point, this must mean Ritmo sides with Britain against the independence of the Thirteen Colonies, since his views are so arrantly statist.

In conclusion, Ritmo always always calls everybody stupid when he's lost and made a fool of himself

So he is in psychotic bloviation mode, having been reminded his threats of murder could get him a cell with Dylann Roof.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Behold the rambling words of a man with no responsibilities in life.

No connection between what he says and reality. Not a scintilla of coherence or relevance.

Just babbling. Projection. And a denial of responsibility for anything that comes out of his mouth-keyboard.

Great reasons never to hire someone.

May you live a long life of no prosperity or productive endeavor, ed.