Wednesday, November 19, 2014

King Obama: “Well, actually, my position hasn’t changed”

Univision Town Hall, March 28, 2011: ‘The executive branch’s job is to enforce and implement those laws.’




Google Hangout, Feb. 14, 2013: ‘I’m not the emperor of the United States’




Interview with Noticias Telmundo, Sept. 17, 2013: ‘There is a path to get this done and that is through Congress.’



There are probably more sound bites of Obama saying that he couldn't do what he is apparently gearing up to do. He just hasn't challenged us to look for the videos of debate, like he challenged us to look for the ObamaCare videos. I'm guessing, we don't want to get ahead of the king.

Washington Post

48 comments:

JAL said...

According to Jan Ting, writing in the NY Times Nov 18, 2014:
"In other contexts, President Obama has made clear that his proposed executive immigration amnesty is illegal and unconstitutional.

July 25, 2011, speech to La Raza: “Now, I know some
people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. And believe me, right now dealing with Congress -- believe me -- believe me, the idea of doing
things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just
on immigration reform. But that's not how -- that's not how our system works. That’s not how our democracy functions. That's not how our Constitution is written.”

Sept. 28, 2011, Hispanic Roundtable at the White House: “I
just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It’s just not true.... We live in a democracy. You have to pass bills through the legislature, and then I can sign it.”

June 16, 2013, interview with Univision: Interviewer: "If this
bill failed on the House of Representatives, will you, can
you actually use your executive power to legalize these 11 million people?" President Obama: "Probably not. I think
that it is very important for us to recognize that the way to
solve this problem has to be legislative."

Nov. 25, 2013, Betty Ann Ong Chinese Recreation Center, San Francisco: “If, in fact, I could solve all these problems without passing them through Congress, then I would do so. But we’re also a nation of laws.”

The irony of course, is many illegals want him to act like the politicians and leaders of the places they are running away from.

Caudillismo?

Amartel said...

The Silence of the MSM Lambs.
Like it never even happened.
Journalism has been slaughtered.

-Who IS this Gruber person?
-Climategate, what's that?
-Ben Gay? Ben Gazi? Those pesky wingnuts and their obsessions!
-What IRS scandal?
-What DOJ scandal?
-What VA scandal?
-Fast and Furious is movie, you guyz. Amiright?
-Sudden arrival of 10s of thousands of children at the border: Coincidence! Now we must feed, house, and educate them. And give them voter cards.
-What voter fraud?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

See? I knew there were more.

Amartel said...

He evolved on amnesty.

Methadras said...

And you lied some more and are going to go it alone anyway. Impeachment and ejection of this guy can't come fast enough. His traitorous nature is in full metal fast track mode now and as he wants it, transparent.

Michael Haz said...

My prediction (you can write it down):

Obama will do just enough to anger those opposed to amnesty, but nowhere enough for those who favor amnesty.

And he won't close the border.

Trooper York said...

Obama treats the Constitution as if it was a liquor store in Ferguson Mo.

Unknown said...

The media are dutifully reporting that this is a giant "screw you" to the GOP. In reality, this is a giant "screw you" to the entire nation.

edutcher said...

It's going to be interesting to see how the La Raza crowd takes this.

They wanted blanket amnesty and this ain't it.

Michael Haz said...

My prediction (you can write it down):

Obama will do just enough to anger those opposed to amnesty, but nowhere enough for those who favor amnesty.


Perzackly.

Trooper York said...

Obama treats the Constitution as if it was a liquor store in Ferguson Mo.

I was thinking how Willie treated Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick.

Unknown said...

The states can sue Obama. They should.

Unknown said...

It's a huge "screw you" to black Americans.

Jobs? screw you. oh well, everyone can be on the welfare now.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

So basically you're upset that he sees himself as Bush did?

The constitution essentially sets up the executive as a 4-year monarch, barring any breaches of law for which impeachment would result. And the job of Congress and SCOTUS is actually not to micromanage POTUS. When it comes to how laws are to executed and prioritized, the executive gets a lot of latitude. If Congress feels he's not addressing illegal immigration properly, then they can fund it better or come up with more feasible solutions in the legislation. Just calling a group of people "illegal" to your base and riling them up doesn't mean you've given the executive realistic tools for dealing with the problem.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Logged on over at Turley's blog.

I'm a little disoriented there with how that format works, but I suppose I'll get used to it.

There doesn't seem to be a way of deleting my own comment.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

@April, that's what I've been saying, if only half joking.

If Obama is going to be imperial you would thing he would be to done imperially grabbed things to his people.

The guy doesn't even know how to do emperor right.

TTBurnett said...

The guy doesn't even know how to do emperor right.

It's amazing. Left, right, or anywhere between or to the sides--I don't care where you are politically--Obama manages to get everything wrong. There are people who love him for just being him. But anyone who has anything like a coherent set of principles, not matter what they are, will be driven to distraction by this idiot.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Trying to make a joke of Obama is perhaps how I keep from loosing it. I cant get too dispirited.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

What a folly it is to believe that are people are driven primarily by anything resembling a set of principles.

But it's true. Obama's fixation with playing all the angles leaves all explanations of what he's actually up to with about as much indirection as a mosquito.

A very successful species if ever there was one.

XRay said...

It's hard to make a joke on a joke.

Live in the moment, says my inner Zen, as a hundred years from now our words will be as grains of sand on an endless beach.

I'd just wish to be sunbathing there, but, alas, I'll be six feet under. Not beach sand either. Most likely.

XRay said...

He's not bit me yet, 9:03, nor shall he.

And please, let your thoughts about principles apply only to yourself. As they should be. You have no say on mine, lacking or not.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You could try to be cremated into beach and sand, but hopefully with more success when it comes to the scattering part than Donnie had in The Big Lebowski.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I think people have principles. I just don't think they are driven primarily by them. Most principles are ex post facto justifications of what they already wanted anyway. As are most rationalizations. And most daily reasoning.

Only objectivity leads to any reasoning or principles detached from baser motivations.

ndspinelli said...

"Donnie, who loved to surf."

chickelit said...

This country surely does reap what it sows, doesn't it?!!

[that was a comment by Ritmo in another thread in another post but my response belongs here]

I agree. And here is perhaps where I differ from fellow conservatives: The problem isn't the border. The border was more porous years ago. Hell, there wasn't really as big a need for it then. And why not? Because there were far fewer receptive employers here then. There weren't queues at Home Depots and willing employers rounding them up and incentivizing more.

People need to stop asking Government to solve the problem by erecting a higher wall and start asking Congress and local governments to enforce existing laws and repeal laws which enabled employers to bring this about. And you can start asking yourself how you've helped or hurt the problem.

Methadras said...

Trooper York said...

Obama treats the Constitution as if it was a liquor store in Ferguson Mo.


The Constitutional professor appears to think it no longer exists.

XRay said...

Look up how Eisenhower took care of the border problem in the mid fifties. It worked. We could do it today. Except that that we all lack balls, today.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Lol. Donnie did love to surf, didn't he?

Hahaha. Eulogies. So funny how John Goodman's character helped make that movie work, as the hotheaded polar opposite to "The Dude's" laxity. And yet, even he would still not give a shit every now and then.

It's funny how it was hard to hate him in that moment, not doing much to stop the ashes from flying around everywhere, even after all the abuse he heaped on Donnie.

edutcher said...

Trooper York said...

He doesn't want to just fuck it Ed he wants to loot it and burn it down.

I submit the two are not mutually exclusive.

Rhythm and Balls said...

So basically you're upset that he sees himself as Bush did?

Gee, I can't seem to recall Dubya ignoring court decisions, picking and choosing which laws to enforce and other impeachable offenses, but, then, Ritmo, seems to think any POTUS is "a 4-year monarch".

Someone needs to tell him about checks and balances and the rule of law.

Dubya observed it, the Choom Gang hardly, but Ritmo likes that as long as it's a Democrat.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I found the entire quote. It reads even better than when you hear it:

Donny was a good bowler
And a good man.
He was one of us.
He was a man who loved the outdoors and bowling.
And as a surfer, he explored the beaches
of Southern California,
from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo
and up to Pismo.
He died... as so many men of his generation,
Before his time.
In your wisdom, Lord, you took him.
As you took so many bright, flowering young men
at Khe Sanh, at Lan Doc,
and Hill 364.
These young men gave their lives.
So did Donny.
Donny who loved bowling.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

The checks and balances are already there, ed. They just don't entitle the Congress or courts to micromanage.

You could take the opinion that they do… but it'll be interesting to see how that will turn out.

There's a legitimate political case to make that Obama's not doing his job in a generally satisfactory sense. But there are only political remedies to that. Not constitutional ones and not legal ones. The former would require agreement of the courts (which won't happen) and the latter, the existence of a party who can claim dollar-fungible damages as a result of Obama's inaction.

Dat's just the way it is, man. Sorry.

TTBurnett said...

Sorry for my typos above. Things just keep falling from the ceiling and hitting my keyboard.

Or maybe it's the winder mosquitoes. Pesky creatures, if you imagine they're there. Are they motivated by a deep strategy? Or do they just want to suck your blood, and don't do it very well?

chickelit said...

@R&B: You can't quote that scene without playing too. The comic relief was priceless: link

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Funny quote on this YT clip:

"Donny is literally out of his element in this scene."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u44D3qKKGPU

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Lol. Sorry 'bout that, Chick.

It was even funnier than I remembered. Esp. with the remains flying right back up all into The Dude's bushy goatee.

The whole time I watched, waiting for that moment… thinking, "Just cap the frickin' Folger's can with a strong rubber band and throw the damn thing into the ocean!"

Hindsight.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

The scene is great. The two sort of switch roles for that moment. All over the f'-up over the death of Donnie.

XRay said...

"As you took so many bright, flowering young men
at Khe Sanh, at Lan Doc,
and Hill 364.
These young men gave their lives.
So did Donny.
Donny who loved bowling."

What blasphemy.

chickelit said...

XRay wrote What blasphemy.

That's partly why the Dude gets so upset. Walter is obsessed with Viet Nam (and pretending he's Jewish). The Dude calls him on his BS.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Well, sort of. He's pissed at Walter because he finds his insertion of Vietnam even into a eulogy about Donnie to be highly inappropriate, esp. by slacker hippie standards.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Sam Elliot was awesome in this movie, also.

XRay said...

I tried, once or twice, to watch that movie. Failed to see it to the end. Don't look at it as a fault of mine. Though, too stupid I guess to appreciate the fine and nuanced observations of Hollywood's finest.

I'm obsessed with Viet Nam, to a degree, don't like seeing it used as a prop for progressive bullshit. Not when I held a dying man in my arms, as he died, there, in that war.

I realize that's just anecdote, no bearing on more important matters.

XRay said...

Sorry for my emotionalism, it just pops up, now and then, without rhyme nor reason.

edutcher said...

Gee, Ritmo thinks impeachment and withholding appropriations aren't legal or constitutional.

Must have studied law under Obola.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Michael Haz said…
My prediction (you can write it down):

Obama will do just enough to anger those opposed to amnesty, but nowhere enough for those who favor amnesty.

And he won't close the border.

November 19, 2014 at 6:16 PM


I wrote it down. You are probably right.

Michael Haz said...

What time tonight does King Putt wave his scepter and proclaim a new law in our land?

By the way, you may be interested in knowing that November 20 is celebrated in Mexico as the day that commemorates the start of the Mexican Revolution in 1910.

Link.

ndspinelli said...

8 ET. The 3 networks are not carrying the speech.

ndspinelli said...

The WH is pissed.

ndspinelli said...

I was wrong. The WH did not request the English speaking networks cover it, only Spanish speaking! Turley should have someone serve Obama w/ a summons and complaint on camera.

JAL said...

And of course there is the fact that the first two years of his reign he OWNED Congress. He could have passed any dang thing he wanted to ... and He DID NOT.

Why?

So now President Stompy Foot is pitching a little "I CAN TOO!" so as to convince someone (?) that he means what he says. I mean, he doesn't mean what he says, I mean it just words ....

{Insert hilarious Nancy Pelosi video clip here from the Gruber montage here.}

JAL said...

Ritmo sez micromanage in reference to Congress and POTUS's job descriptions, implying Congress might be "micromanaging" Obama?

Excuse me -- since when is it "micromanaging" to gag / balk on the Executive office writing LAW?