Tuesday, November 12, 2013

"Americans 34 Times More Interested In Buying Guns Than Obamacare"

 

19 comments:

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

A gun is safer than obamacare?

The Dude said...

Not in your hands, but far more people will die due to Obamacare than guns.

Calypso Facto said...

Crowd wisdom.

bagoh20 said...

Do we have to shoot ourselves with it to see if it works?

The Dude said...

Maintain muzzle discipline and only point the weapon at things you want to shoot. I have some suggestions, but it would be imprudent to list them here.

Icepick said...

LMAO!

Calypso Facto said...

A friend pointed out tonight that the Obamacare website has now been in development longer than the entire span of the US war in Europe during WWII. The current incompetence boggles the imagination.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Killing stirs their passions more than healing!

edutcher said...

Funny how people have a very different view of what they need than their "betters".

edutcher said...

Calypso Facto said...

A friend pointed out tonight that the Obamacare website has now been in development longer than the entire span of the US war in Europe during WWII. The current incompetence boggles the imagination.

By Groundhog Day, it'll be the entire American war effort.

Aridog said...

My passions include my latest Model 1911 version a Kimber Cuper Carry Custom HD and my first Tupperware gun the FNH FNX-45, both in .45 ASCP with barrels throated for both hard ball and hollow point rounds. shoot primarily hard ball for targets, the old fashioned military drill.

The Kimber is a tack driver, a target grade hard baller, and the newer FNX-45 is getting better as I become familiar with it....for a home defense pistol it has features that are important: a manual full disconnect safety and a de-cocking feature that lets the gun rest in double action mode for any first shot...and with safety on de-cocked there is no link between the trigger and hammer.

Methadras said...

Building another AR right now. Also going in on a massive ammo buy with a bunch of friends. Oh wait, did I just keyword NSA myself? Dammit.

bagoh20 said...

That plus the affinity for death metal moves you to the top of the list. I'd avoid buying any pressure cookers.

Aridog said...

Methadras ... you like the AR design, have you ever considered an FNH FN Five SeveN in 5.7 x 28 mm cartridge. It's .22 caliber like the AR but hand holdable with powerful cartridges. It may be my next pick for target shooting and potentially carry, since it is very light weight compared to my .45's. Not sure I want a supersonic pistol round, however...have to try it.

bagoh20 said...

I love having dogs. Back before I started dog rescue, I only had one relatively small dog, and he was deaf and blind eventually, so not much help on the home security detail, so I would sleep with my Ruger 45 within reach, as well as other less lethal options. This necessitated having to remember to put it away every day before going to work - a real hassle. Now with at least 4 dogs always living with me, I'm much more at ease knowing that I could never get surprised and would have plenty of time to get to my weapon without having to have it within instant reach. So I can keep it safely hidden all the time. Man and dog were made to live together.

People come to my house regularly without me here. Guests, workmen, etc. The dogs are actually worthless for actual protection, they are friendly the instant you act like you know them, even if you are a stranger, but they do bark at strange noises in the night. That's all I ask.

Aridog said...

R & B...for many of us, killing is not the objective and even when it was we didn't necessarily like it, it was a duty and a requisite of survival. I haven't hunted since I came home in 1971. I think you need to talk to some actual marksmen, not just read random "prepper" nuts on blogs. Other than the potential when I carry (it is Detroit after all)...all of my targets are either paper at 25 yards for timed fire, or clay for standard American trap shooting...e.g., both my shotguns are 30 or 32 inch barreled O/U target guns and would be too heavy to carry for hunting anyway.

Shooting sport is just that...sport, but it does prepare you for an untoward eventuality if it should arise. Better than being unprepared. I started registered target shooting at age 7 in the Junior NRA with a Winchester Model 52 that I wish to hell I'd kept when I got all infatuated with .30 caliber.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I have a lot of respect for whatever it takes to "live off the land" and have no problem with even a Ted Nugent type's ideas (or maybe Jesse Ventura's, really - as the latter seems better able to relate to a variety of people). Being able to fend for oneself and recognizing that killing/hunting was a critical "coming of age" moment in a boy's upbringing that we should still respect is something I identify with. The natives had rituals whereby one had to prove one's own courage, and many times in my twenties I'd long for more experiences like when I was in the scouts but where you'd become pretty proficient at killing your own stuff. Some of these things come full circle as, hell, even the Facebook CEO thinks the best way to appreciate the "life" in our collective livestock is by killing one's own every now and then, and I agree. And my favorite reality show is "Dual Survival". Separating the wealth of our bounty from their own lives leads to abominable things like factory farming, morbid obesity and the idea of munching Doritos on a couch in front of a TV as some kind of luxurious existence.

That said, while I can understand the necessity of relying on verification to justify your trust of fellow man, I do think that we have to adjust to the fact that our societies have become much less violent, on the whole, than tribal lives were. While we can have the same respect for the lives and deaths of the animals that sustain our own, I don't think we need to prepare for making war as often as your typical Indian tribe had to. Surely being well prepared for war is still a necessity, but learning how to trust and connect with other people is something we can vastly improve on, and have a much greater capacity for than we did 10,000 years ago.

The Dude said...

I spent Saturday afternoon punching holes in half inch thick steel plate with a .30-06. Every smaller round just splattered on the face of the target - 7.62x39, .45, .357 and so on, but the .30-06 blasted a hole right through it.

That was educational.

bagoh20 said...

"t learning how to trust and connect with other people is something we can vastly improve on..."

I agree, and we can start by trusting them to defend themselves, but if you want me to trust and connect with the gang members in my community that car jack, murder and rob for sport and glory then I think I'll pass.